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Re the Patagonia vs. Pattie Gonia case: the company should sponsor her environmental efforts and part of that is a trademark agreement where each side compromises a little bit; Pattie can keep doing her thing and Patagonia is seen as an ally again.

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Kapuku

I do not understand why Pattie agreed to not use her drag name in "any product", vs simply agreeing to not use the logo. That sounds like a bad deal for her, but it seems like that's what the parties mutually agreed.

Jason KottkeMOD

Getting a lot of pushback on social about Pattie being the one who's mucking up the works here (e.g. see replies on Threads). I'm not really interested in who's "right" here; I just feel (naively perhaps) that fighting about trademarks legally and publicly is not a good look for either party and that there should be a way for everyone to get back on the same "side" again. Americans love their litigation tho.

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Moira

The problem is the legal framework around trademarks -- Patagonia HAS to defend their marks vigorously or risk weakening/losing them. This is why they sued -- but for $1.

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Elizabeth Walsh

Patagonia's claim that there could be confusion or brand dilution is laughable. "Wait, am I buying a technical backpack from a legacy outdoor brand or a t-shirt from an inclusive drag queen?"
I know the bar is low for such claims, but c'mon, not that freaking low. And anyone so confused is also unlikely to shell out the kind of money Patagonia wants for their (admittedly excellent, yes I own some and rely on it) gear.

Secondly, there's something really weird about an American company screaming "DIBS!" on its name at the top of its litigious lungs, when it chose to name itself after a South American region that - by the diffuse nature of the region - would be unable to similarly protect itself from being used to sell things of no benefit to the region. (See also: Amazon)

Patagonia:
1) Get a freaking sense of humor and honestly think about if you're punching up or down here,
2) Show-not-tell you're not going to add to the misery of already marginalized people during an incredibly difficult time, and
3) Get your army of lawyers to draft up an agreement with Patty Gonia that spells out how you'll keep out of each others' kitchens.

For my part: No more buying of Patagonia gear until/unless they live up to the values of being normal.

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