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Ira Glass’s Subway Take is genuinely shocking: “Every podcast is better at 2.0 speed!”

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Jesse R.

When I was in film school I naively assumed that everyone there was a movie purist and into the same (arguably pretentious) art films that I was. I was shaken from my belief when a friend from the program told me that he routinely fast forwards through the slow parts of movies when he watches them and that he would never see a movie more than 2 hours long in a theater. I never would have imagined that Ira Glass of all people might be the equivalent of a movie fast-forwarder. Now I'm afraid that there might be an outtake of the Scorsese series where he admits to the same.

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Alana Cloutier

This is horrifying! I want to strap this person down and make them watch Terrence Malick’s The New World. 😂

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Scott Calvert Edited

I feel vindicated! I’ve been doing this for more than 10 years. Not only does every talk too slow on podcasts, but I get to listen to twice as much content.

You probably should not try to go from 1x to 2x though. Work your way up slowly.

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Leslie A Leonard

Haha, same! I just sent this to my husband, who is always horrified at the speed at which I listen... but they all talk so slow, and my mind wanders during the spaces between the words! When I speed it up it actually helps me focus, somehow!

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Enrique

As a New Yorker, 1.5x is the sweet spot for me. I call it Scorsese speed.
That said, the comedic effect of listening to an audiobook at .5x—which will make even Michelle Obama sound utterly soused—is not to be missed.

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Jason KottkeMOD

Why not just watch movies by reading the Wikipedia entry instead?

I’m kidding, sort of. Just wondering where listening to podcasts or audiobooks at 2x fall on the continuum of reading the Cliffs Notes instead of a novel or having ChatGPT doing your homework. IMO, if you’re 2xing the audiobook for James or Deacon King Kong, you’re doing it wrong. Atomic Habits? 3x that sucker (or skip it and read a novel).

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Scott Calvert

Why is it comparable to Cliff Notes? I’m consuming the entire podcast. Just faster than most people. My wife reads faster than I do. Does that mean she should get less “credit” when she and I both read a book because she’s done it faster?

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Marcus

1.5 speed is my sweet spot. The podcasts I listen to are conversations, reviews, discussions and so on, and to my mind comprehension or appreciation is not diminished by listening speed.

Is there a defined “one true reading speed”?

I think the number of podcasts where the audio has been considered to a degree that 1x speed is required is pretty small. Something like song exploder or bandsplain where a lot of music is excerpted come to mind.

Each to their own I guess!

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Kate Munkittrick

I think it feels like cliffs notes because it falls in that bucket of things you're doing maybe not because it's a thing you actually want to do but things you're doing because you somehow feel obligated to OR it's just a distraction. I get it if you're just looking for some fun trivia or if you really are just looking for a distraction since we are generally bad at boredom these days. But imagine a bike ride where all you can think is - "Man, I am enjoying the heck out of this ride. If only it would last half as long." Are you really enjoying that? As a reader, I usually want my books to last longer, not end faster.

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Kurt Congdon

1.25x is about the most I can do, faster than that and the distortion starts to become too distracting

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Moira

I'm with you - any faster than that and the interstitial/intro/outro music feels so fast that it makes me anxious.

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Chris Wubbels Edited

If the point of a thing is experiencing it (e.g. stories, films, music), then I would never speed it up. With these things, mood, tone, pacing, and atmosphere are crucial. I want to be immersed and transported into that space where my imagination mingles with that of the works' creators.

If the point of a thing is learning (most podcasts and non-fiction audio books), I will go 1.5x - 2x. In those cases, information density is key, not just for "efficiency", but for keeping me engaged at all. The spoken word at normal pace is too sparse. I even find that live lectures are difficult to stick with, unless I'm simultaneously doing something else.

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Joshua Leto

I am an inveterate 1.25 listener, for literally as long as the option has been available, but there are some podcasts, such as This American Life, where I listen at to 1.0. I say closer, because I use Overcast and it has its own process to drop silences, which usually is like 1.05-1.10 in real time listening. And when I add the 1.25 to this, it's more like 1.35. If I want to listen at 1.5 or above, I'm re-listening and focused on finding something specific, or I just start skipping until the podcast is interesting again.

The other necessary example is music-focused podcasts. 1.0 is critical if they are going to play a clip from a song. Which means that every episode of 500 Songs by Andrew Hickey that I've listened to is quite a commitment.

I get the 1.5 and above for information podcasts, as Ira mentions and someone else in the comments brings up, but at 2.0 I'm not even really listening anymore, it's just words floating by.

My annoying and too-judgmental take is that 1.5 and above is for "consuming content", not for engaging with the work of creative people.

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Jay C

Always 1.0 for the greatest podcast ever made which is 500 Songs.

I used the silence dropping feature in Overcast for a while but realized that those little silences in speech are a feature that my brain needs to help me retain what I'm hearing. I usually go for 1.0x or 1.1x, sometimes up to 1.3x, but any faster than that and I'm just hearing it, I don't retain much. I fully stopped using Overcast earlier this year when watch sync stopped working and nothing I could do would fix it, which makes it useless since on runs w/out my phone is when I do most of my listening.

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Mike F. Edited

Interesting - I found the same thing with the "smart speed" in Overcast. The lack of gaps confused my simple little man-brain. ;)

BTW, if you haven't tried it, iCatcher! is BY FAR the best podcast player for running sans iPhone (playing off of Watch). Will auto-load episodes to the watch, doesn't need to be on charger to do so, *as many episodes as you like*, super-reliable transfers, set skip fwd/bwd in 5sec intervals, responds to issue reports and/or feature requests directly and quickly, etc. (And free - I send the dev $20/yr just as thanks and to hope he keeps it current...which he has thus far. )

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Mau S

I agree that most podcasts can be listened at 1.5x (my top limit) or more.

What Ira brings up about "a talker in clumps" is key here: so many podcasts have like really long pauses, silences. Overcast — an iOS podcast player — has this "smart speed" feature that cuts all the silences as you go. This feature combined with a higher speed, enables you to consume podcasts in a much more efficient way, even if increasing the speed is not your thing.

1.5x + smart speed is the way to go.

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Bradley K

I came here to mention the Overcast "Smart Speed" feature as well. Like mentioned above, the feature trims gaps of silence, but importantly leaves in a little bit of silence on each end so it still ends up sounding very natural. As of today, the Smart Speed feature alone has removed 2,918 hours (121 days) of silence for me since I began using the app in 2014!

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Alana Cloutier

I am a pretty fast reader, and a visual learner, so I read the transcript if there is one. That said, I am not a big podcast fan, so needing to get through my podcast listening list faster isn’t really a problem for me, though based on various friends media diets, that list is pretty long for a lot of people. Twice speed sounds too hectic for me, but we all have our own sensory input limits!

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Bill Amstutz

Everyone says you should read to your child every night and they'll become a reader. Well, I read to my son religiously well into his early teens and instead of making him a reader it made him into a listener. Now, in his 20's he "reads" audio books and listens to tons of podcasts at 2X.

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Ellen

I think I have inadvertently done this too! I was conflicted about my son requesting audio books to complete his homework, but a former high school teacher friend gave her blessing: listening counts!

I’ve tried to embrace this new medium and 1.5x works for me but I like it best when the material has a scripted vibe and is not just conversational.

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Rick S

Seeing the comments, I hesitate to say this, but I use VLC Player to watch tv shows at x1.77 speed.

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James Risley

All reality TV shows should have this option. I enjoy watching a few as a social thing with neighbors, but to spend 45 full minutes on it is taxing. I wish I could do it at 1.5x to shave that down to 30 min.

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Richard Heppner Jr.

I have a hard time imagining enjoying speeding up any podcast that is supposed to be entertaining (as well as or) rather than informative. Comedy in particular really relies on timing.

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Paolo Palombo

Hard no. The pauses, the slow talking is part of what some people are. I don’t just want to hear what someone thinks - I want to hear it in their voice.
A good example: John Gruber has long pauses. I can definitely see why people may find that off-putting. But that’s John’s voice to me.

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